Co-Authoring, David Berens, and a new look at the Founding Fathers

You just never know what’s going to happen when it’s time to record a new episode of Good Sentences. Here’s the problem. Craig Hart is insane. But that’s not the bad news. No, the bad news is that of the two of us… he’s the sanest man in the room.

Take for example our trashing of the founding fathers. Even these great Americans of the pre-streaming age are not immune to our twisted minds, but I’ll let you listen to the opening section of Episode Ten. (Holy crap! There’s ten episodes). And I’m not saying you won’t chuckle a little. You probably will, even as you’re putting your hands of your child’s ears. Perhaps not as loudly as Craig and me, but as I said, we put the “special” in “those are two special kinda dementoids, right there.”

One is the lonliest number

Writing is, primarily, a solo endeavor. But not always and not for everyone. There have been many excellent books written by two or more authors working together. (I almost wrote “working in congress,” which while grammatically correct are words so removed from reality as to render everything else equally moot – but much like during this episode, I may be veering off the highway a bit.

POINT IS – Co-Authoring, it’s a thing!

Ask sixty authors their thoughts and you’ll get just as many opinions, but the sixty or so folks we asked were kind enough to respond to a survey to give us an idea of what some of those opinions actually are. Here’s the breakdown of their responses.

Have done it, would do it again

Have never done it, but I might

Have done it, would never do it again




This is an area in which Craig and I have a decent amount of experience, as we have written several books together, starting with the SpyCo novellas, and most recently we worked together on the newest installment of his Shelby Alexander series. And we talk, in the episode, about how lucky we were to have found a writing partner who is so compatible artistically. There’s a good deal more to what makes it work on the show, but basically it has a lot to do with ego, or more accurately the ability to keep that in check.

Some of the folks who responded to the poll, (all of whom are authors worthy of a look – you’ll find links at the end of the post), also explained their views. And while the poll itself had mostly positive responses, the comments point out many of the potential challenges.

It really matters who you choose for a coauthor. Not all people work well together. I’ve had both good and bad experiences and I’ve learned to weigh what I know against what I’m hoping. Just because something SOUNDS like a good idea doesn’t mean it actually is. Authors have different processes. It’s best to work with someone who has a similar process as yours.

Heidi Hutchinson

We connected with that right away, because Craig and realized early in the partnership that we had a nearly identical process, making things go amazingly smoothly.

I’ve co-authored with 2 different authors and both were great experiences! We discussed some ideas and then just went with the flow, one of us writing a few chapters and then sending it to the other author to right the next few. To smooth it out, each person went back and edited chapters from the other author which helped make it flow easily and blend our writing styles better. I’d do it again. The only complaint I have is dealing with payments each month because I hate going over the royalties and converting it all before sending to my co-authors. 😂 I’m lazy like that and it takes a lot of eye power. It’s really about finding the right person or people you feel comfortable with and trust. As long as you both are into it and putting as much into it as the other, it really can be a great, fun experience.

Victoria Ashley

Another great answer! And another key point: the willingness of both writers to let the other elevate their work. Craig has made changes to my stuff and the instant I reviewed what he’d done I realized he’d improved it. I’ve looked at a section that he’s killed it on, then noticed a spot where a sentence might ramp up the tension, or a spot where we might be able to grab a chuckle. Trust is a huge component.

Hey, here’s a bit more about why I love co-writing. I love having someone who knows my characters as well as I do so when I feel stuck, we can talk it out. I love that my co-authors’ weaknesses are my strengths and their strengths help cover my weaknesses. I love that in dual POV, the characters’ voices are completely unique because two different authors have written them. I love how having someone else who wants to read the next chapter motivates me to work on it.

Jolene Buchheit

My friend Jolene was excited enough about the topic to message me to further expand on a comment she’d left with the survey. She’s worked with other writers in three different configurations and has learned something different from each partnership.

For most of the folks that left a comment the challenge for them was often the person they were working with. Leave it to my buddy Katy Webb to cop to being the problem child herself.

I have a couple people I would co-write with, but I don’t work well with others. I’m always that person who jumps in and does all the things to make sure they get done. Call it “control freak” if you’d like. It would have to be someone I know would participate in the brainstorming process as well as offering their voice to the story.

Katy Webb

David Berens

Our discussion segued into a specific author who is one of our favorites, and we are also fortunate to call him friend. David Berens has written a slew of books, both solo and with other writers, although the method he related to Craig in an interview that originally appeared on The Games and Writers Show, is another form of collaboration altogether. And the final section of Episode 10 is that very interview, which will give you a great deal of insight into this very talent author. You’ll learn about the genre tag that’s applied to Dave’s work, (“Florida Fiction,”) as well as his general writing technique. It’s not something you’re going to want to miss.

Check out our friends

The folks who chimed in on co-authoring would love for you to take a look at their work. I, being the great spoon-feeder, shall make this amazingly easy:

Our Lame Excuse

I’d like to take a moment to acknowledge the amount of time that has passed between episodes nine and ten. It was approximately three hundred years. Alright, maybe it just felt that way, but we have an excuse.

As I mentioned earlier, Craig and I have been working on the new Shelby Alexander thriller, Serenity Reborn. The process of getting that all squared away to make sure we were good to go as the release date draws closer was a very intense (and completely fun) sprint, and we felt like a new episode of a podcast about writing might be understandably postponed because we were writing. If you haven’t preordered your copy of Serenity Reborn, you can click the banner below and do it now, but before you go I’d like to leave you with my favorite quote from Episode 10.

Those who can, do. Those who cannot do, teach. Those that really suck have a podcast.

S.J. Varengo

“What’d you just say?”

You can trust me! I’m pretending to be a scientist!

Dialogue. Simply put, it is one of the most crucial elements of any form of written narrative. The words a character speaks, the interplay of words between two or more characters… its importance cannot be overstated. Well, maybe it can be overstated. I guess we’ll find out by the end of the episode and/or this post. I suppose in a way that makes me a scientist. Somebody grab me a lab coat.

There is so much that we can say about the topic! [Under the heading of Full Disclosure: When you listen to the episode you’ll quickly hear there is much we can’t say as well. My mouth, at least, seemed to lose its connection with my brain a couple times. Under the heading Too Much Disclosure, Probably: There was beer involved.] But we thought the best way to demonstrate the points we made were to read a few excellent samples of dialogue from some of our favorite authors.

Papa saying, “My dialogue will kick your dialogue’s ass.” And then it does.

The first was Craig’s selection from the Hemingway short story “Hills Like White Elephants.” In that story two people – a man and a woman – are talking at a bar, and it gradually becomes obvious they are talking about the woman being pregnant and possibly having an abortion.

“The beer’s nice and cool,” the man said.

“It’s lovely,” the girl said.

“It’s really an awfully simple operation, Jig,” the man said, “It’s not really an operation at all.”

The girl looked at the ground the table legs rested on.

“I know you wouldn’t mind it, Jig. It’s really not anything. It’s just to let the air in.”

The girl did not say anything.

“I’ll go with you and I’ll stay with your all the time. They just let the air in and then it’s all perfectly natural.”

“Then what will we do afterward?”

“We’ll be fine afterward. Just like we were before.”

“What makes you think so?”

“That’s the only thing that bothers us. It’s the only thing that’s made us unhappy.”

Ernest Hemingway – The Complete Short Stories

We see in this selection Hemingway’s unmistakable style. After using a sprinkling of tags (the man said, the girl said) which establishes speaking order and an audible rhythm, he eliminates them altogether. As a reader we never lose track of who is speaking because the pattern is established with the first two sentences.

Craig and I have this as our matching tramp stamps.

Now, Craig cops to being an Hemingway fanboy on the podcast. While I do not make the verbal confession, the fact that my first example is also from Hemingway should indicate to you that it’s true for me as well.

From The Sun Also Rises comes my favorite line in all of literature. The dialogue here is being used to establish the natures of two very divergent characters, Robert Cohen and Jake Barnes (who also happens to be my favorite character in all of literature).

“This is a good place,” he said.

“There’s a lot of liquor,” I agreed.

“Listen, Jake,” he leaned forward on the bar. “Don’t you ever get the feeling that all your life is going by and you’re not taking advantage of it? Do you realize you’ve lived nearly half the time you have already?

“Yes, every once in a while?”

“Do you know that in about thirty-five years more we’ll be dead?”

“What the hell, Robert,” I said. “What the hell.”

“I’m serious.”

“It’s one thing I don’t worry about,” I said.

“You ought to.”

“I’ve had plenty to worry about one time or other. I’m through worrying.”

“Well, I want to go to South America.”

“Listen, Robert, going to another country doesn’t make any difference. I’ve tried all that. You can’t get away from yourself by moving from one place to another. There’s nothing to that.”

“But you’ve never been to South America.”

“South America, hell! If you went there the way you feel now it would be exactly the same. This is a good town. Why don’t you start living your life in Paris?”

“I’m sick of Paris, and I’m sick of the Quarter.”

“Stay away from the Quarter. Cruise around by yourself and see what happens to you.”

“Nothing happens to me. I walked alone all one night and nothing happened except a bicycle cop stopped me and asked to see my papers.”

“Wasn’t the town nice at night?”

“I don’t care for Paris.”

Ernest Hemingway – The Sun Also Rises

There is so much happening in this section of dialogue! To say it expounds fundamental differences in the characters of Robert and Jake is a bit obvious, but the depth to which it does it is remarkable.

Craig and I talk quite a bit about sentence tags in the podcast episode. Our main points were that they certainly are necessary, and can be used to great effect, but they also, through over-use, or perhaps more accurately non-judicious use, can actually make reading the dialogue difficult. After all, when you listen to people speak they do not conclude each time they do with , “I said.” Unless they’re weird. It can lead to what I call an “ear-clunk.” Something that doesn’t sound right to you “mind’s-ear” and makes you stumble as you read. It takes you out of the rhythm of natural conversation.

Craig’s other example comes from John Steinbeck’s classic, Of Mice and Men.

Steinbeck? STUDbeck, more like it!

‘I forgot, Lennie said softly. ‘I tried not to forget. Honest to God I did, George.’

‘O.K. – O.K. I’ll tell ya again. I ain’t got nothing to do. Might jus’ as well spen’ all my time tell’n you things and then you forget ’em, and I tell you again.’

‘Tried and tried,’ said Lennie, ‘but it didn’t do no good. I remember about the rabbits, George.’

‘The hell with the rabbits. That’s all you ever can remember is them rabbits. O.K.! Now you listen and this time you got to remember so we don’t get in no trouble. You remember settin’ in that gutter on Howard street and watchin’ that blackboard?’

Lennie’s face broke into a delighted smile. ‘Why sure, George, I remember that…but…what’d we do then? I remember some girls come by and you says…you say…’

‘The hell with what I says. You remember about us goin’ into Murray and Ready’s, and they give us work cards and bus tickets?’

‘Oh, sure, George, I remember that now.’ His hands went quickly into his side coat pockets. He said gently, ‘George… I ain’t got mine. I musta lost it.’

‘You never had none, you crazy bastard. I got both of ’em here. Think I’d let you carry your own work card?’

John Steinbeck – Of Mice and Men

Again, a masterful use of dialogue. Steinbeck uses more tags than Hemingway in our two examples, and even uses an adverb (something we discuss in detail), but you can hear the innocence of the hulking Lennie, the frustration of his protector, George. George’s repetition of ‘The hell with…’ is also extremely effective in getting this frustration across. (You’ll also want to hear my totally righteous excuse for why I did not select anything from Steinbeck as my example.)

Reading Wally Lamb is like taking a Masterclass in writing.

In my final selection we jump from the 1920’s and 1930’s to the 1990’s (I mistakenly say the ’80s in the episode. You’ll want to tune in just to hear me be wrong, I’m sure), and the second novel of one of my favorite authors of the past 25 years, Wally Lamb’s brilliant, I Know This Much Is True.

Again we learn the nature of a character, in this case Leo, from his interactions with others. He is eavesdropping on a pair of men described as “… a tall, skinny doofus and the other a squat fire hydrant with eyes.”

“Just what we needed,” Leo mumbled as we sat down. “Popeye and Bluto blocking our view.”

“Call her,” the skinny one kept goading his no-neck friend.

“Which one?”

“The one I was talking to at the bar.”

“Should I?”

“Hell, yeah. Go for it, man! Her name’s Cindy.”

No Neck picked up the phone and dialed. “Hello? Cindy? You don’t know me, but I got a message for you from Dick Hertz.”

He cupped his hand over the receiver and winced in his effort not to laugh. “Whose Dick Hertz? Well, now that you mention it, Cindy, mine’s killing me. Care to give it some relief?” He slammed down the receiver. Their loud guffawing and table-whacking made half the people in the place look over in our direction.

“Jesus Christ, Birdsey, these guys make you look suave,” Leo said. “No wonder we’re losing the fucking war.”

No Neck’s buddy stared over at us for a couple of seconds, then leaned forward and tapped Leo on the shoulder. “Excuse me, pal, but what’d you just say?”

“Huh?” Leo said.

“I asked you what you just said. To your friend here. Something about my buddy and me and the ‘fucking war’?”

Leo looked bewildered. The he laughed. “Fucking whores, is what I said. I said this place is full of fucking whores.”

“Oh. Well.” He looked over at his buddy and back again. “You got that right. I thought you said something else.”

“No problem, my man,” Leo said, flashing him the peace sign. I shook my head and smiled.

Wally Lamb – I Know This Much is True

This example does several things with dialogue at once: introducing us to Leo, letting us know a bit about the time frame of the scene, as well as the narrator’s stoic acceptance of his friend’s eccentricity to name a few.

If you don’t hurry, all these silhouettes will get there first!

There is a good deal more discussion in the episode about all of the themes touched on here, so be sure to digitally run as fast as you can to listen to Episode Nine! Also, because Craig and I both believe that one of the best things an author can do to improve his/her writing is to READ the citation line of each example is a link to the book discussed. Much as are the words “Episode Nine” above. I can do that sort of thing because we are living in the future.

And be sure to stay tuned, as we’ll be discussing dialogue again in our epic, TENTH EPISODE, (bringing us to exactly ten more episodes than we thought we’d get away with!)

A Chat with J.A. Jance

Author J.A. Jance talks with Craig and Scott about her career and her characters

If you love mysteries, the chances are very good that you are familiar with J.A. Jance. She is the NY Times best-selling author of not one, but four successful series, beginning with the J.P. Beaumont novel Until Proven Guilty in 1985. Her other marquee characters, Joanna Brady, Ali Reynolds, and the Walker family round out her massive body of work which currently stands at sixty-nine novels, with the most recent being The A List in the Ali Reynolds series.

The conversation was fascinating, as J.A. tells us story after story of the development of her career as a writer, from being told by a college professor that “women did not become writers,” to editors who told her that no one would by books about a man, told from a man’s perspective, from a writer named Judith, to her first husband who told her there was only going to be one writer in the family, and it wasn’t going to be her. (Full disclosure – all three stories got me pretty steamed at the gender I was assigned. Why do we men insist on being such assholes?)

But I digress.

If you haven’t started reading the Beaumont books yet, clear your schedule.

Because the real topic of discussion was, as has been our theme in January, the development of her characters, and she describes the genesis of J.P. Beaumont, (she started that series thinking she was writing a one and done), Joanna Brady, (because she was getting bored with Beaumont) and Ali Reynolds (who was J.A.’s shot of revenge at an Arizona news director’s decision to fire her favorite newscaster between the 12 o’clock news and the 5 o’clock news).

Now, I know you want me to tell you more, and I could go on and on, but for crying out loud! You’re going to want to listen to the show and get the skinny straight from the source. Enough of my prattling on. Go listen to Episode Eight!

Killing Your Darlings

Have you been exposed to the famous quote of William Faulkner?

Well, if you haven’t, you have been now. But before we discuss this, there is some necessary housekeeping in order.

The Punch-able Faulkner

First, Faulkner may have said it at one point or another, but the quote does not originate with him. In an excellent article called Murder Your Darlings, published in Tin House magazine in 2013, Seth Fried tells us both that properly-placed credit must go to British author Sir Arthur Quiller-Couch, and that actual murder has nothing to do with what he was talking about. That’s probably true of when Faulkner said it as well, but screw Faulkner, frankly. I mean LOOK AT THE GUY!!! Don’t you just want to belt him in the face? Can’t you just hear the words, “Your mother and I have decided to send you to a boarding school so that we can give all your cool toys to your little sister. Oh, and we’re getting her a puppy.”

Sir Arthur Quiller-Couch, taken the year prior to his death.
Still looks better than Faulkner or at least less punch-able.

Now with Quiller-Couch you get more last names, but perhaps less in the way of notable work, although I hear On the Art of Writing Lectures Delivered in the University of Cambridge 1913-1914 is a real edge-of-your-seat page turner. So good that Amazon is giving the Kindle version away for free. As a rule, I will jump on free books for my Kindle, but in this case I decided, “Nah, I’m a’ight.”

If by “Darlings” they mean the writer, director, producer, and actors, then I’m in.

And as far as the meaning of the quote, all serious writers realize the topic here is what happens, or should happen in Sir Arty’s opinion, during the revision of your first draft. The darlings are your words, author and he’s calling for a bloodbath among them during revision, cutting anything that does not make the work better. And, as an aside, I am quite sure he never was talking about a film starring Harry Potter, although it was probably one of the best films to come out of Croatia that year. (Not kiddin’. Follow the link.) But let’s be honest. That’s not what we want it to mean. Who wants to talk about rewrites? (Well, Craig and I do, and will on a future episode, but that truth really softens the punch of the joke, so pretend you didn’t read it).

No, what we want it to be about is the characters themselves. In keeping with this month’s theme of the central importance of the character, in Episode Seven of Good Sentences, we discuss that moment when it becomes time to kill a character.

The death of a character can be one of the most dramatic, important moments in a book. Remember this?

When I read Gandalf’s death scene for the first time I was probably sixteen or so, and to this day I can still recall the feeling of physical discomfort in my gut when I did. Don’t recall if it was after lunch period, which certainly could have added to the the discomfort. But it was the “death” of my favorite character from the book that was the main source.

For Craig, it was the book Martin Eden, by Jack London that he remembers as delivering that same character death clout. I was thrilled, after hearing this news, to find out that my volume of the Best of Jack London contains the work, but if anyone would like to purchase this 100th Anniversary edition for my birthday, (which is creeping relentlessly toward my 100th Anniversary edition), hell yeah. I’d let ya. (The picture is a link, hint-hint.)

As traumatic as this can be for a reader, I would ask you now to shift your thinking slightly and imagine it from an author’s perspective.

A literary character, especially one that is well-crafted, deeply layered, and as complex as any real human you’ll meet, is to the author who breathed life into its nostrils a precious thing. I love my characters. In the show I describe my relationship with the characters I write as similar to an online-only Facebook friend. Depending on where you fall on the whole social media spectrum this might sound to you like I’m saying “Oh, a literary character? So what? It’s not like you’ve ever actually seen him/her.” But in my case, at the very least, I have some people who mean a great deal to me who are social-media-only (SMO) friends. Hell, until 2018 Craig and I had been SMO friends for seven years. We’d written books together, cheered for the other’s success, bought goats and named them after each other… wait, you guys don’t do that? That’s not a thing? He told me it was a thing! But in short, I’m talking about all the things you would do with an IRL friend.

Literary characters do not possess physical bodies. But if the author is doing his/her job, that should be the only difference. The reader should be able to feel like they know the person they’re reading about.

One of the series’ key characters in lost in
A Single Candle

As a writer I can speak from experience about how attached the author can become to his/her characters. I was upset with myself for quite some time after finishing A Single Candle, as you’ll hear me explain in the podcast. Sometimes I still call myself bad names when I think about it, names like doody-head, spaz, and, worst of all, gunkie. Clearly I take the issue very seriously to be talking to myself like that!

Thrillers are great for characters dropping like flies.

And then there’s the “other kind of character.” You know. The one created for the sole purpose of dying eventually. Yeah, that guy/gal. Craig cops to creating bullet fodder in his mind blowing Shelby Alexander Series, (prompting me to admit the same about the Cleanup Crew books.)

By now, if you haven’t abandoned reading this post to go listen to the episode, you should. Among other things you’ll hear more about authors’ attachment to their darlings, and about the one author both Craig and I believe probably got into writing because it was as close as he was likely to get to killing anyone, but apparently he really likes it. Not naming any names, but he has the same middle initials as Tolkien, the TV show based on his books rhymes with Fame of Bones, and he looks like this:

This author’s blood-lust knows no bounds

So click the “Listen” link in our topside menu, or if scrolling that far back makes you feel icky, then just click here. I won’t judge you. Craig will, but not me. [Ed. Note: Craig Hart is a very nice, non-judgmental fellow.] [Scott’s Rebuttal Note: He is a fine fellow, but he’s totally judging us all, and, sadly, finding us lacking.]


She knows the pain of “booger-face.”

When you were a kid, did you get your feelings hurt a lot, like when the other kids called you “booger-face,” or “toofus?” And when it happened did you run to your mom and tell her about it, hoping she’d draw you to her and hug away the pain, all the while bathing you in her distinctive scent which, although she never baked anything in her life, always smelled like blueberry muffins? And did you find yourself shocked, when instead she turned to you and said, “Oh my God, Scott. Grow a pair!”… ?

Wow, that got oddly specific. And silly obviously, but I opened with that flourish of Fragonard for a reason. [Ed. Note: Dammit, Craig! He’s tossing in art history references again. I thought you talked to him about this!]

The purpose of the silliness was to illustrate that I was a sensitive kid. Perhaps, at least in my mom’s opinion, overly so. Which was easy for her to say, not having be branded “booger-face.” But as I got a little older I realized that she was probably right.

Here’s the deal though: everybody probably has something they don’t really like to talk about. They have an issue from their past, perhaps significant only to them, perhaps horribly universal, which when discussed within their sphere of perception, triggers an emotion. Again, perhaps it’s nothing more than a feeling of annoyance. On the other hand it could be a crippling memory of a time in their life when they were powerless and badly hurt.

And sometimes writers write about that shit.

Only but a fraction of the gazillion…

With the proliferation of independently published works, there are, last time I counted, about twenty gazillion books floating around the known universe, (which in literary terms is only a little bigger than your local Barnes & Nobel as far as we can say with evidence to back us up. I am waiting for an inter-library loan from the CNPL (Crab Nebula Public Library) to see if there are any good books out there we should be reading). Okay, probably less than twenty gazillion. But there are a lot. And, for the most part, they are being written by fine people who have a story to tell. They are motivated by a desire to share the magic that happens in their head when they sit down to write. Some, I suppose, are written by horrible people with much darker motivations. I once read this book called Mein Kampf, written by an unknown veteran of the Great War who was in a German jail when he wrote it. It gave me the heebie-jeebies. I wonder whatever happened to that guy.

But to get to my real point, some of those books written in good faith by good people contain something – maybe a character, maybe a story line, maybe the pivotal, mindset forming moment from a character’s backstory… that some reader, who bought the book in good faith, hoping to be entertained, finds… I shudder to type the word… offensive.

In my mind, all sensitivity readers are diligent cartoons

A while back, during the glory days of the Games and Writers Show, Craig and I dug deeply into the topic of a new trend in writing and publishing – the genesis of the “sensitivity reader.” This is a person who reads an advance copy of a book to determine if it contains anything that a reader might find offensive.

First, let me just say this is not a job I would want, because you’re never going to get a day off. Here is the dirty secret, which is really no secret at all since I’ve been saying it from the beginning of this post: Every book has the potential to mess with somebody. And I’m probably not woke enough anyway. (Don’t get me started… don’t even get me started).

I guarantee you someone, somewhere, is offended by Pooh Bear

We live in a world where things happen as a matter of course that most people would probably never be able to imagine in the deepest pit of their most horrific nightmares. And because there is no limit, it would seem, to the depravity of which mankind is capable, it is almost impossible not to offend someone, especially if what you are writing deals frankly with a topic that may come from that dark nether place where demons prey upon angels.

As an overly sensitive kid who grew up (hopefully) to be one of those writers who is working to tell the best story he can as well as he can, I get all of the feelings and I see valid points on both of the sides.

In the sixth episode of Good Sentences, Craig and I give you our take on the issue, which as you’ll learn when you listen, ends up being a rather personal one.

Craig, once again, did a great job in editing the episode together the the old GAWS acetate discs, thought to be lost these many years, and I think you will perhaps gain some new perspective on this far-reaching topic. This one should appeal to readers every bit as much as to writers, though not so much, I think to people who do neither of these things. Just a theory.

And after you listen, why not tell us what you think? You can leave a comment here on the blog, or on our Facebook Page (both of which you’re encourage to follow!)

What Do These Pictures Have In Common?

Look closely before you answer:

Have you figured it out yet?

Okay. I’ll spill. The second is Maslow’s hierarchy of character motivation, and is discussed in the new episode of Good Sentences. We’ll get to the first picture in a minute.

Full disclosure: I am totally tooting our own horns.

Season One, Episode Five is now available from all your favorite podcast schlepping platforms, (that’s a show biz term, baby!), and in it Craig and I dig deep into character development and specifically what motivates a character. Not to toot our own horns, but I think there’s a lot of stuff in the episode that aspiring writers might be able to benefit from.

As for the first picture, both Craig and I and, I assume, many of you have seen a slew of Privacy Practices updates filling our inboxes. And it occurred to me that we’ve never disclosed ours. That’s where Puzo’s book comes in. We at Good Sentences treat your privacy as though we were all in the mob together. No one says nothing. Shortest privacy practice statement ever.


…in Episode Five!!!!

2020 (Starting With a Bang)

The time has come at last! The 2020 Season of Good Sentences is underway! Okay, okay. Technically we started our season on back in November, with the newest episode posting on December 28. Also, technically, I should probably call it the 2019/2020 season, I suppose. Look. It is what it is, okay? I would toss out a “so sue me,” but even though no one ever listens to me, this time someone probably would.

But listen, it’s good news. Our first full new show has been recorded, edited, (more on that in a minute), and posted on, as I may have alluded, December 28.

Our guest is once again Angelique L’Amour, who was kind enough to return to talk with us again. Now there’s two things you need to know about Angelique L’Amour.

  • At some point during the interview, you’re going to hear the three of us laughing. That’s because for whatever reason, our craziness seems to sync up nicely.
  • She knows her stuff when it comes to character creation and development.

As I’ve mentioned previously, a couple of times, (probably more than anyone other than Craig and I care to hear), Good Sentences is a podcast about writing. And let me tell ya, this episode should make writers drool.

It’s okay. Dip your toes.

Character development, as we stress during the show, is one of the most crucial skills to master. And while some authors seem to want to avoid it at all costs, (much like this person with the oddly large head to the left), Angelique has a very interesting take on it, and you’re going to want to hear what she has to say.

Craig at the mixing board. That’s bourbon in the test tube.

Now! I mentioned editing before. (Go look if you think I’m lying. Sheesh. Whatever happened to trust?) I just want to give a nod to my partner for his skills in this department. There’s far more magic going on than the ear can pick up, but I will tell you that Craig overcame some nasty electronic gremlins, managed to edit out almost every stupid thing I said, (this alone took him days), and put together a tight little package for your edification.

So, click here, head over to the episode, and enjoy!

Did you get any writing done?

It’s a pretty commonly heard question among the fraternity of ink-slingers. “Did you get any writing done today?” So, if you’re reading this, I suppose I’m asking you that right now. Good Sentences is a podcast about writing. Have we mentioned that? And while not everyone on the planet considers themselves to be a writer, a lot of people do. Probably over nine. Less than a trillion. Somewhere in between, no doubt, but still a lot. Take it from a couple of guys who are currently navigating those very busy waters.

My Theory: This is what my journalism prof’s trash looked like all the time.

But this isn’t a cautionary tale. We have no use for caution. If you feel you have a story in you that needs to be told, tell it. And what’s more, we’d like to help you do that. We don’t want to be like my first college journalism professor who before, reading a single word written by anyone in the class, told us all we were going to starve to death if we wanted to make a living as journalists, and that if we considered ourselves to be “authors” (a term that clearly hurt him when he spoke it), our deaths would come sooner and be far more grizzly. I’m pretty sure the guy was teaching journalism because he’d failed at doing journalism, but I’ve definitely gotten off track here.

The point is, we don’t want to discourage anyone from trying their hand at the craft. And while there plenty of places you can go to listen about how to market your finished product, we are more interested in helping your finished product be the best you can make it.

We also think that Good Sentences is going to be a resource for folks at all stages of their writing journey. Not that Craig and I have all the answers, (or most, even… okay we have less than six answers), but we also are going to bring you the wisdom of some pretty heavyweight writers, and we’re going to take what they have to offer and dig deep into topics that will infuse your work with new life.

What sort of topics? The building blocks of every story are similar, and everyone one of them is worthy of discussion. In upcoming shows you’re going to hear us talking about character quite a bit. Let’s face it, it’s tough to write a story with no characters. They don’t necessarily have to be human characters, but a story with no characters isn’t going to keep the attention of the majority of people who read. I don’t think. Maybe there’s a way to do it. [Note to self: figure out if there’s a way to do it.]

Two of these guys are me and Craig, probably.

I’ve probably drifted off course again. And like I said at the outset, these are crowded waters, and drifting off line is a hazardous choice to make. Listen, make sure to follow Good Sentences on the podcast platform of your choice (we’re on all the sexy ones) and who knows maybe your boat will be tooling around in the busy waterway, and from the next boat over you’ll hear someone yell to you, “Did you get any writing done today?”

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Craig Johnson

Walt Longmire is not your average hero, and Craig Johnson is not your average author.

Craig Johnson speaks with Craig Hart about “Longmire” and the craft of writing.

In this interview two Craigs, (the author and our very own Craig Hart) discuss how Johnson originally planned for Longmire to be a one and done, and how it developed into a series. He also discusses the experience of having his book developed by Netflix as a series.

Johnson speaks about his writing method, and discusses the importance of character development, and of writing with a sense of humor.

The interview, (originally released on the Games and Writers Show), is now presented on Good Sentences, (your new favorite podcast), and can be heard on all the best outlets NOW!

You can also listen here, because I’m such a swell guy.

Dying for the Cause

My podcast partner, Scott (or as those of us closest to him say, “Scott”), sent me a message this morning inquiring as to the state of my health. To which query I replied, “Dying. Otherwise, all good.”

There was a moment of texting silence, after which he said, “We’ve spoken about this hobby of yours before. I don’t think it’s healthy.”

I was, naturally, quite taken aback by this assertion, as I’ve always considered dying to be the healthiest thing one could do, based on the unassailable logic that if one is dying, then one cannot yet be dead. And being “not dead” is, quite possibly, the exact opposite of unhealthy. Note, of course, that being “not dead” is not the same as being “un-dead,” a designation that carries with it all the foul suggestions of a zombie apocalypse. (Which, despite all the completely realistic TV shows showing the contrary, may not be as fun as one might assume.)

The point I am trying to make here is that, while I am not dead, there are those, my doctors among them, who might be tempted to confuse death with my current state.

That’s right; I’ve had some manner of seasonal malady that I can only guess is a product of some unholy mating ritual between smallpox and the bubonic plague. As such, I’ve been dragging my rotting corpse around for weeks now, comforted only by the fact that I’ve succeeded in making my family’s lives miserable in direct correlation to my own suffering.

Yesterday, I had had enough and went on yet another visit to my doctor’s office. My family was saddened to see me depart, or so I supposed from the way they began popping the tops off champagne bottles and donning small, pointy hats.

Upon arrival at my doctor’s office, they all but rolled out the red carpet for me, beginning with the entire staff joining in a collective groan, an exercise I can only assume was designed to amuse and lift my spirits. It was a failure, and I condemned them all to Hades, although I appreciated their efforts and will likely pray to shorten their time in purgatory. (I realize that my theology is likely completely off-base here, but you won’t be able to prove I’m wrong until it’s too late.)

I was examined by a doctor with very cold hands who then prescribed a chest x-ray.

“You sure that’s a wheeze good idea, doc?” I asked. “I’m a married man and if the x-ray technician gets a look at this chest, I might not be able to restrain him or her from having a go at me.”

The doctor pretended not to hear and tried to distract me by grinding his teeth together so hard that I had to duck to avoid a spray of enamel shrapnel.

The x-ray was taken, amorous techs were restrained, and I went home to await the results. In less time than it took the glaciers to grind down the Great Plains of North America, the nurse called to inform me that my x-ray had come back negative. I hung up the phone.

“What did they say?” my wife asked.

“It was negative,” I said. “Apparently, I have no chest.”

She nodded sagely. “Confirmed,” she said.

So, what does this completely true and not at all embellished story have to do with the Good Sentences podcast, you ask? Simply that, come hell or high water, good health or ancient illnesses, Scott and I are dedicated to bringing you at least one more episode by the time we both die.

Unless that is today, which, in my condition, it may very well be.

Check out the recent episodes here.